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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:20:00 -
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And here we see WHY we will no longer be able to use BPOs that are safely locked down in corp hanger to research and manufacture at POS.
"The installation gets picked automatically when you select a blueprint. It will select the installation where the blueprint is located and use a default location for inputs."
So make one less click, like "select location", they choose a game breaking short-cut of the BPO has to be at the location... non-lcoked down.
So, we have to create high sec alt corps for protect our BPOs, then produce copies and ship them to null sec.... just becasue CCP didn't what to add a "pick location" to the new UI screen.
ARG! |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
910
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:25:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:
That's not why, but it is a nice side effect.
So, what is the why? You dislike corps being able to make BPOs available for all players to sue, without risk of theft, because they are locked down in corproate hanger?
There is some "fun" aspect of the game that comes from us grinding out copies in 1-man alt-coprs to protect BPOs from corporate theft?
Was there really a meeting where someone said "Let's destroy BPO lockdow!" and someone else replied "YEAH!! It will make the game WAY more fun if industrialists have to create one-man alt corps to create copies to protect their BPOs from corp theft!"
Seriously? |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
911
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:36:00 -
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Querns wrote:
No. The removal of remote BPO copying was to make you have to actually endure risk to enjoy the benefits of POS research. It wasn't a mechanical workaround.
You clearly do not understand how industrialists operate.
RISK destroys profit potential.
We're not going to put tens or hundreds of billions of ISK worth of BPOs at risk. Not when the profit on a capital is maybe tens of millions. We have to build 1000 capitals to pay back the purchase price of BPOs. There is not room in that for the risk of BPOs being subjected to the irsk of corp theft becuase they can not be locked-down.
We will create an alt corp with large POS in high sec, with a gazillion hardeners, and a couple labs, and crank out the copies. Transport them to null in regular jump freighter runs, since the copies take up virtually no space.
It is not risk v. reward. It is goint pain in the donkey, for no game-play value.
Industrialists do NOT accept risk. We find ways around risk, usually by destroying profitability, which is why 70% of players stay in high sec. The stupid hoops we have to jump through to avoid attempts to force us to accept risk destroys profitability of doing anything else.
CCP admitted in the blog about this that NO ONE is going to be putting expensive BPOs into POS. |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
911
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:50:00 -
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Sylvanium Orlenard wrote:CCP wants all ISK making activities to have an inherent amount of risk attached to it. In Industry they decided to create that risk by making blueprints have to be in the factory and not in some station under lock down.
Do I agree with it, NO, but I can understand why they would do that, even if I really really hate it.
Then CCP is doomed to fail, because we do not accept risk. We accept lower profit to avoid risk, until the profit becomes too low, then we move back to high sec.
If CCP wants everyone in high sec, then they are on the right track. Just keep putting more hoops for null sec industrialists to have to jump though to stay safe.
This idea they can get us to accept significant risk is beyond ridiculous.
They need to stop listening to GOONS, have 3000 pilots online at any time. Their POV is NOT the POV of the other 30,000 pilots. |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
913
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:53:00 -
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Querns wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:
Industrialists do NOT accept risk.
No, you mean YOU don't accept risk. You should be prepared to be outcompeted by those who do.
So, join goonswarm where 3000 blues have your back, so I can oput compete those that don't have 3000 other players watching their back...
Spoken like a true goon.
CCP, seriously.... we're not all goons! Stop listening the their ideas that make the goons more profitable and drive everyone else out of the game.
This change to BPOs is just STUPID! |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
913
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Posted - 2014.04.28 16:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:Then CCP is doomed to fail, because we do not accept risk. You keep using that word. As long as you keep using it, you will be inherently wrong. Top tip: stop saying GÇ£weGÇ¥ when you mean GÇ£IGÇ¥.
Then why did CCP, in the blog where they announced the change, admit that no one is going to be puttiing 100 million+ ISK BPOs into POS?
I can't imagine that they actually thought this through, including the risk of corp theft from not being able to lock-down, and the ramifications of the total annoyance that is going to come from alt-corps that do nothing other than make BPCs.
Whoooo hoooo... fun game. Log in the alt, start a bunch of copies. Take the copies out. Create cotrract.
Talk about extra mindless mouse clicks with no game-play value. |
LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
913
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:This change to BPOs is just STUPID! BPOs don't change in the slightest. GǪor, well, they become faster to copy, but that's more GǣhandyGǥ than GǣstupidGǥ.
Semantics.
Sorry... left out the word "effecting".
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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
913
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Posted - 2014.04.28 17:28:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:LHA Tarawa wrote:
Then CCP is doomed to fail, because we do not accept risk. We accept lower profit to avoid risk, until the profit becomes too low, then we move back to high sec.
i accept risk and i'm going to beat your brains out in whatever market i choose to as long as i can get rewarded for my risk-taking now, i understand npc alts don't like risk but they're barely human
You hide too. You hide in goonswarm. Come out and try being in a ten man corp with 30 total toons.
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LHA Tarawa
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
914
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Posted - 2014.04.28 21:44:00 -
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CCP, you may want to look at skill requirements for copy, and then make sure it can't be done on trial account.
The 50,000 one-person alt accounts setting up POSed in his sec for copying BPOs because of the stupid change to not being able to use a POS to manufacture from a locked down BPO will be abusing the HECK out of trial accounts to crank out copies.
Oh my gawd the monotony opf having to log into alt after alt after alt after alt, just to deliver and start copy jobs.... You have created hell in EVE.
Good job CCP. |
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